Looking for the correct Standard

[Hitman]

Hi all,

New here, but have used this site many many times to gain knowledge.

I have a mechanical drawing under a rev change and under previous revs, parts were removed from the parts list and the FN's were listed as "Obsolete", but remained on the drawing. The drawing in now being reved again and the engineer is redlining to say remove the obsolete lines, but not renumber the parts list, so now I have a drawing they want released the has FN's go sequentially up to sat 5 and the next FN is 17. I know this is because the engineer does not want to have to renumber his drawing. (Worked with them for years and I know how they get)

As the QAE reviewing this, I know I'm going to reject this change, but I cannot find the reference to stand on. I have looked through ASME Y14.100 and ASME Y14.34M but can't find where it would actually say this can or cannot be done.

I really could use some guidance on this one. Hope I posted in the correct area.

Thank you

[Kelly_Bramble]

The drawing in now being reved again and the engineer is redlining to say remove the obsolete lines, but not renumber the parts list, so now I have a drawing they want released the has FN's go sequentially up to sat 5 and the next FN is 17. I know this is because the engineer does not want to have to renumber his drawing. (Worked with them for years and I know how they get)

It is very standard to not remove or reassign note numbers on engineering drawing revisions.. In general, the removed note is simply replaced with "REMOVED" or equivalent. OBSOLETE = REMOVED in my mind. Also, some organizations use the cross-out method thus leaving the original note.

In aerospace they work to MIL-DTL-31000 standard which outlines the TDP including the engineering drawing practices. Clearly, it is a good idea to NOT re-number as this effort could introduce drawing errors and create extra labor and more spend.

Be aware that many organizations have internal DRM's and may choose any practice that best fits their organizations requirements.

I would check out the following standards:

ASME Y14,35M - Revision of Engineering Drawings and Associated Documents

If you work in aerospace, see Global Engineering Documents "Drawing Requirements Manual" as you probably live by this document.

MIL-DTL-31000 D -->mil-dtl-31000.pdf

[Zach0350]

We often do not renumber our upper level drawings (layouts for trackwork, etc.). This is to ensure our service manuals and field copies of drawings (even on outdate revisions) will have similar numbers. Too often we get calls for replacements of "Part 45" and it has been renumbered.